Thursday, July 12, 2018

Why is it important for church leaders to understand the Dones

Earlier this year I attended a men's prayer breakfast at a local church. I had not been to anything like this in quite some time. I was invited by a friend and it is a church that supports Sun Ministries so I went. There were about 60 men in attendance. As the speaker started his presentation I was very interested in what was on his mind. It would indicate to me what the church thought was important.

After a little bit of event promotion and pleading for involvement he got to his main topic. To my surprise it was The “Dones”. He quoted statistics and made his case for why these “lost sheep” must be returned to the flock. I was astounded at the way he derided people for leaving the institution. It became obvious to me that he wouldn't recognize a “Done” if one was right in front of him because there I was – right in front of him.

I don't blame him for presenting slanted information. Most of the information on The “Dones” comes from institutional church leadership sources. They are desperately trying to figure out how to get them “back in the fold”. This is the source of their error. I never left the fold. I am still as much a part of God's church as ever. What this man did was to regurgitate information and propaganda. He then decided to cast these people in a negative light. That is beyond excuse.

He had at his disposal a real life “Done”. This church has connected with Sun Ministries and even supported it. All he had to do was ask and I would have taken the time to give him first hand understanding of the “Dones”. I could have introduced him to dozens of them. I could have helped him understand their motivations for leaving and what they are doing outside his system.

I think every church leader and even those people that remain in the institution should make the effort to understand the “Dones”. We are a part of God's church. We are not likely to come back. We do long to have unity in the body of Christ. So I am making it easy on you. Do you want to understand the “Dones”? It's your move.

I encourage you to participate. Use this link to join the Meetup group and register to attend a Meetup of The “Dones”.

Meet the "Dones" group - Click Here

Would you rather have us come to you? I would be happy to bring a couple of people to meet with your staff and answer any questions you may have. Just email me -

We look forward to having you meet us. 

Monday, July 9, 2018

Why is it important that the Dones Connect

The Bible contains a lot of instruction for the church. There are instructions for structure, leadership, operation, priorities and function. The “Dones” have left an institution that many felt was not found in the Bible. Some search for that more organic and supernatural expression of faith they see displayed in the Bible. This desire has led many of us out of the institution.

Genesis 2:18 - And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone;

From the beginning God has had a design for His children to live together. Jesus clarified this more when He spoke of our love and unity.

[John 13:35 NASB] 35 "By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another."

[John 17:22 NASB] 22 "The glory which You have given Me I have given to them, that they may be one, just as We are one;

Love and unity are not just important concepts to God. They are indicators of our union with Him. One reason the “Dones” must connect is to display to the world that we are of the father and disciples of Christ. We cannot do it apart from each other. Leaving the institution is just one step on the journey. We must move on to do church the way God designed it to be done. This will require us to connect with each other.

We encourage you to participate. Use this link to join the Meetup group and register to attend a Meetup of the “Dones”.

Meet the "Dones" group - Click Here

We look forward to having you join us.

Friday, July 6, 2018

Who are the Dones

The “Dones” is a label given to one of the fastest growing religious groups in America. The term applies to people that have left the institutional forms of church after years of involvement. The “Dones” are, quite simply, done with church but not with God.

I am a “Done” by that definition. I was raised outside the religious system of America. After accepting Christ at 13, I tried to fit into the church system that was presented to me. I pursued religious education reaching a Ph.D in theology. I was ordained by a mainstream denomination and was selected to a district level leadership position. The more I learned, the more I began to question the practices and systems that I could not find supported in Scripture.

In 2008 I resigned my positions in the denomination, turned over my ordination and moved my family to one of the most devastated areas in North St. Louis. Many thought that when I left the church that I was leaving God. In fact, I met Jesus outside the camp and embarked on a learning journey with Him. I now feel called to help others on that journey by sharing my spiritual gifts and experiences freely with others.

There are Many “Dones” in America today. Some estimates put the number at over 30 million with multiple millions joining them each year. There are some important things to consider about this movement.
  1. God has a design for His church. Just because we left the institution does not mean we don't need each other. The “Dones” need to connect in order to be the church that God designed.
  2. It is important for those that remain in the institution to understand the “Dones”. There are many misconceptions about us.
With these two things in mind we have decided to form a group where “Dones” can connect and those in the institution can meet us and gain understanding. Me and a few others have embarked on this attempt to bridge the gap, foster unity and help to unite God's children. We encourage you to participate. Use this link to join the Meetup group and register to attend a Meetup of the “Dones”.

he "Dones" Group Click Here

We look forward to having you join us. This is a time of great change in American Christianity. God is doing something big and we are all a part of it.

Thursday, March 8, 2018

Relationship vs. Collaboration

I am often contacted by people who want to work with us in some way. The buzz in social service circles is “collaboration”. Grant funders go to great lengths to promote collaborations. They design grant opportunities that require it. This has created a great deal of interest in working together. These types of relationships may be beneficial to reduce redundancy of efforts and overlap of services. I have rarely seen collaborations produce long term beneficial results. If anyone cared to examine the number of attempts at collaborating with the number of sustained collaborations they might agree with me.

I believe that my obedience to the Gospel of Jesus places a higher burden on me than just collaborating. I must seek relationship first when anyone wishes to work with us. Those that also seek relationship find us a willing work partner. The difference, in my opinion, is personal. When we start with relationship we put people above everything else. We can then care for each other first and then for our joint efforts. We may laugh together, cry together and pray for each other. We will find ways to benefit each other through sacrifice and service.

As a minister of the Gospel, I recognize that the Good News of Jesus is all about relationships. It repairs our broken relationship with God. The Gospel teaches us to love each other and have relationship with other followers of Christ. God makes this relationship special through the presence of His Spirit. But the Gospel doesn't stop there. It continues teaching us to have relationship with others by showing them love. This is often done in the form of sacrificial living and serving on our part. Then the Gospel compels us to a radical course. We are instructed to love our enemies. This is not only radical but difficult.

Collaboration indicates from the very start that we are coming together to do a task or fix a problem. I am not called to Sun Ministries to fix anything. When we start with relationship, we can focus on the real goal of loving each other. When we all get better at loving each other, those different from us and our enemies I am sure our problems will fix themselves. I consider myself an ambassador of Jesus and an agent of reconciliation. If you want to work with us it must start with relationship. If that interests you then call or email me and we can sit down over a cup of coffee and see what God will do through us - tegether. 636-544-2151

Tuesday, January 30, 2018

Planting Churches without Church Planting

The modern approach to church planting is directed at producing an institution or another branch of an existing institution. People plan, organize, hire and fund an effort that, if successful, will result in an institutional church structure that can sustain its own cost of existence. This is not what we do at Sun Ministries. Sun Ministries exists to facilitate the planting of churches we call faith communities. We do not do this by planting churches or creating institutions.

Sun Ministries plants “churches” by making disciples and teaching them to make disciples. As these disciples gather together they naturally form a church. Isn't that really the church? The church is a gathering of disciples. It is “Ekklesia” in the Greek. As the disciples gather together they are taught how to function as the church as outlined in Scripture. They are taught biblical teachings on leadership, spiritual gifts, baptism and communion, etc ...

Sun Ministries then uses its resources to help the local church rebuild the inner city. We resource housing, businesses, vehicles and training. We help supply a wide variety of things to the work of caring for the local community. We are not a church. We do not run or oversee the churches we “plant” We offer training, leadership, resources and a connection to other churches. We continue our efforts to make new disciples and gather them into new churches.

We have made much of our basic training available for free at We have established The Church@HydeParkand are empowering it to minister in its local community. If you would like to learn more or connect with our work in any way just email me –